Comments on: Married Couple Victim of Possible Hate Crime in Waikele http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/ Hawaii News and Travel Guide Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:56:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: What The F http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/comment-page-1/#comment-63631 What The F Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:59:56 +0000 http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/#comment-63631 Regardless of the circumstances, Ms. Dussel's was at fault for pushing/touching the young man to keep him at bay. In no way, shape or form should she have touched him, as it gives the young man legal precedence to use her physical contact as defense in court, DESPITE the fact that he beat her badly. The assault on Mr.Dussel is a separate matter, as he was attempting to defend his wife, but nevertheless should have sought the help of a security officer and/or called 911 before attempting a rescue, as evidenced by his swift incapacitation. Mr. Dussel placed himself in harm's way with no positive outcome. I would have gone to my wife's rescue, but exercised greater caution. "Race," a term that I greatly dislike (and is used more for legal/classification purposes, like "insanity") could have been a factor, but the account describes what would have amounted to terroristic threatening and property damage IF the Dussels took no further action (ie her touching/pushing of the young man). The motivation is then disregarded. If the Dussels backed off (or stayed in their car), called the police, and let them handle the situation, no one would have been involved in such a SNAFU. Despite their best intentions, the Dussels were caught in the crossfire, but I stress that Ms. Dussel should HAVE NOT touched the young man in the first place. It's akin to assaulting a Peace Officer and giving him/her the right to use any means at his/her disposal to incapacitate, and possibly neutralize you (even if by accident, given a pre-existing health condition he/she wasn't aware of). Regardless of the circumstances, Ms. Dussel’s was at fault for pushing/touching the young man to keep him at bay. In no way, shape or form should she have touched him, as it gives the young man legal precedence to use her physical contact as defense in court, DESPITE the fact that he beat her badly. The assault on Mr.Dussel is a separate matter, as he was attempting to defend his wife, but nevertheless should have sought the help of a security officer and/or called 911 before attempting a rescue, as evidenced by his swift incapacitation. Mr. Dussel placed himself in harm’s way with no positive outcome. I would have gone to my wife’s rescue, but exercised greater caution.

“Race,” a term that I greatly dislike (and is used more for legal/classification purposes, like “insanity”) could have been a factor, but the account describes what would have amounted to terroristic threatening and property damage IF the Dussels took no further action (ie her touching/pushing of the young man). The motivation is then disregarded. If the Dussels backed off (or stayed in their car), called the police, and let them handle the situation, no one would have been involved in such a SNAFU.

Despite their best intentions, the Dussels were caught in the crossfire, but I stress that Ms. Dussel should HAVE NOT touched the young man in the first place. It’s akin to assaulting a Peace Officer and giving him/her the right to use any means at his/her disposal to incapacitate, and possibly neutralize you (even if by accident, given a pre-existing health condition he/she wasn’t aware of).

]]> By: paakuala means "Big Ugly Pussy" http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/comment-page-1/#comment-50515 paakuala means "Big Ugly Pussy" Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:45:54 +0000 http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/#comment-50515 Sorry, but Haole is not an offensive word to white people. After all it means " a white person". There is no racial slur to offend a white person, b/c we are proud to be white. Maybe other races should take note b/c we control your mind when we call another race with a slur, they lose all control and fly off the handle. So it is more likely that other races are self hating, bc they are prob. too lazy to accomplish anything. Oh im sure the white folks were trying to pull a hit and run over a fender-bender. Whatever. Im sure they had much more money than the Hawaiian thugs. ANY man who beats up a woman is a coward and a pathetic pussy. You're going to talk about this story and then say we should respect Hawaiians? Being born Hawaiian doesn't make you special, just fat and ugly. True Hawaiians only account for 20% of the people so good luck island n*****. Haole is here to stay. And if you continue to act like niggers, you shall be treated like one. Why don't the island n**** and other n**** start their own club were the can sit around eating pineapple and watermelon and bitch and whine about how the white man took everything from them HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO. So how many hundreds of years does it take for you to make something of yourself? Will you ever take responsibility for your own worthlessness? You have the same opportunitys as white people. But you would rather sit around on your ass and blame someone else fro your lack of intelligence, work ethic, and hygiene. Many many years have passed and the hawaiians have proved to be as ignorant and stupid as their ancestors, who by the way are the ones who gave up their islands. And if you hate whitey so much, why don't you stop using anything made, bought, or sold by White people. Or stop working with or for them. Then see how far your culture makes it. Even though im sure they couldnt manage without. So just continue to fling your arms and legs towards the heads of of whites and maybe that will work. But eventually white people will stop feeling sorry for you, and then you will reap the whirlwind. Sorry, but Haole is not an offensive word to white people. After all it means ” a white person”. There is no racial slur to offend a white person, b/c we are proud to be white. Maybe other races should take note b/c we control your mind when we call another race with a slur, they lose all control and fly off the handle. So it is more likely that other races are self hating, bc they are prob. too lazy to accomplish anything.
Oh im sure the white folks were trying to pull a hit and run over a fender-bender. Whatever. Im sure they had much more money than the Hawaiian thugs. ANY man who beats up a woman is a coward and a pathetic pussy. You’re going to talk about this story and then say we should respect Hawaiians? Being born Hawaiian doesn’t make you special, just fat and ugly. True Hawaiians only account for 20% of the people so good luck island n*****. Haole is here to stay. And if you continue to act like niggers, you shall be treated like one. Why don’t the island n**** and other n**** start their own club were the can sit around eating pineapple and watermelon and bitch and whine about how the white man took everything from them HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO. So how many hundreds of years does it take for you to make something of yourself? Will you ever take responsibility for your own worthlessness? You have the same opportunitys as white people. But you would rather sit around on your ass and blame someone else fro your lack of intelligence, work ethic, and hygiene. Many many years have passed and the hawaiians have proved to be as ignorant and stupid as their ancestors, who by the way are the ones who gave up their islands. And if you hate whitey so much, why don’t you stop using anything made, bought, or sold by White people. Or stop working with or for them. Then see how far your culture makes it. Even though im sure they couldnt manage without. So just continue to fling your arms and legs towards the heads of of whites and maybe that will work. But eventually white people will stop feeling sorry for you, and then you will reap the whirlwind.

]]> By: BIG HAOLE http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/comment-page-1/#comment-46545 BIG HAOLE Mon, 26 May 2008 12:47:45 +0000 http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/#comment-46545 TIRED-OF-ALL-THIS-HATE Says: They may be curable, but your brand of hate tends to live on. You are probably a faliure, with a small dick and a lot of regrets. GET OVER IT!!! AND SHUT THE F— UP! HAHA. talk of penises.. fag. I still shit on the locals and would shit down your throat if I ever saw you. I have no regrets for anything. I've decided not to give my money to the hate mongers on hawaii. I'm going to europe instead now. Too bad I wont be coming over to see you poor shits lick my as for my money. TIRED-OF-ALL-THIS-HATE Says:
They may be curable, but your brand of hate tends to live on. You are probably a faliure, with a small dick and a lot of regrets. GET OVER IT!!! AND SHUT THE F— UP!

HAHA. talk of penises.. fag. I still shit on the locals and would shit down your throat if I ever saw you. I have no regrets for anything. I’ve decided not to give my money to the hate mongers on hawaii. I’m going to europe instead now. Too bad I wont be coming over to see you poor shits lick my as for my money.

]]> By: BIG HAOLE http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/comment-page-1/#comment-46546 BIG HAOLE Mon, 26 May 2008 12:47:45 +0000 http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/#comment-46546 TIRED-OF-ALL-THIS-HATE Says: They may be curable, but your brand of hate tends to live on. You are probably a faliure, with a small dick and a lot of regrets. GET OVER IT!!! AND SHUT THE F— UP! HAHA. talk of penises.. fag. I still shit on the locals and would shit down your throat if I ever saw you. I have no regrets for anything. I've decided not to give my money to the hate mongers on hawaii. I'm going to europe instead now. Too bad I wont be coming over to see you poor shits lick my as for my money. TIRED-OF-ALL-THIS-HATE Says:
They may be curable, but your brand of hate tends to live on. You are probably a faliure, with a small dick and a lot of regrets. GET OVER IT!!! AND SHUT THE F— UP!

HAHA. talk of penises.. fag. I still shit on the locals and would shit down your throat if I ever saw you. I have no regrets for anything. I’ve decided not to give my money to the hate mongers on hawaii. I’m going to europe instead now. Too bad I wont be coming over to see you poor shits lick my as for my money.

]]> By: TIRED-OF-ALL-THIS-HATE http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/comment-page-1/#comment-46196 TIRED-OF-ALL-THIS-HATE Tue, 20 May 2008 23:58:45 +0000 http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/#comment-46196 WOW!!!!! There is a lot of HATE out there!!! First, is being ignorant a good reason to be attacked? Maybe some/most of the white people (Americans, Canadians, Europeans) who come to Hawaii ARE ignorant. So what? Somebody "disrespects" you, and you beat them? Why not just disrespect them back? They call you fat, call them ugly, and so on... Second, there is A LOT of pent up hostility among the native Hawaiian/"local" community. BTW, "local" means non-white, so even if you are born here, if you are white, you will never be "local". Numerous injustices have been committed against the Hawaiian people, and some of them where done by whites... so now, in 2008, the people who are angry see whites coming to Hawaii, spending money, having fun, and not understanding much about the indigenous culture... most toursits don't have the faintest clue that this problem even exists. Meanwhile, the angry Kanakas and "locals" find this ignorance offensive - and from time to time the rage explodes. As with most injustices, the people who did the 'crime', i.e., separating the Hawaiian from his/her land (the Hawaiian Ali'i and many caucasians) ARE ALL DEAD! So the self-perceived 'victims' blame any caucasian (after all, they are ALL guilty, right???) but NEVER the Ali'i - go figure. Solution? I do not see an easy one. The 'disrespect' will continue. Hawaii's cost of living is skyrocketing, putting more stress on people living in Hawaii. The angry people will still be angry, so no solution in sight. Oh, this is for BIG HAOLE: YOU ARE AN IDIOT. OR TOTALLY RETARDED. WHY DO YOU BAIT PEOPLE LIKE THAT? I put you in the same category as the Paakaula family. They are ignorant and violent, you are ignorant AND a race-baiter. They may be curable, but your brand of hate tends to live on. You are probably a faliure, with a small dick and a lot of regrets. GET OVER IT!!! AND SHUT THE F--- UP! Would you talk like that if the people you are baiting could see your face? TO KANAKA: Deal with your wounded pride and ego, but in other ways. THIS is not the way. I have reviewed the court documentation on this case, and the Dussell's were not trying to run away. Unfortunately, you are letting a small number of bad experiences alter your attitude towards a whole race of people. Just like sometimes the Hawaiian is the victim, THIS one time, the Hawaiian was at fault. Let it be what it is - don't try to make it into something bigger I HOPE ALL THE HATERS ON BOTH SIDES GET HELP SOON. I like living in Hawaii, but I see this name calling and race-bating as a total waste of time. WOW!!!!!

There is a lot of HATE out there!!!

First, is being ignorant a good reason to be attacked? Maybe some/most of the white people (Americans, Canadians, Europeans) who come to Hawaii ARE ignorant. So what? Somebody “disrespects” you, and you beat them? Why not just disrespect them back? They call you fat, call them ugly, and so on…

Second, there is A LOT of pent up hostility among the native Hawaiian/”local” community. BTW, “local” means non-white, so even if you are born here, if you are white, you will never be “local”. Numerous injustices have been committed against the Hawaiian people, and some of them where done by whites… so now, in 2008, the people who are angry see whites coming to Hawaii, spending money, having fun, and not understanding much about the indigenous culture… most toursits don’t have the faintest clue that this problem even exists. Meanwhile, the angry Kanakas and “locals” find this ignorance offensive - and from time to time the rage explodes.

As with most injustices, the people who did the ‘crime’, i.e., separating the Hawaiian from his/her land (the Hawaiian Ali’i and many caucasians) ARE ALL DEAD!
So the self-perceived ‘victims’ blame any caucasian (after all, they are ALL guilty, right???) but NEVER the Ali’i - go figure.

Solution? I do not see an easy one. The ‘disrespect’ will continue. Hawaii’s cost of living is skyrocketing, putting more stress on people living in Hawaii. The angry people will still be angry, so no solution in sight.

Oh, this is for BIG HAOLE: YOU ARE AN IDIOT. OR TOTALLY RETARDED. WHY DO YOU BAIT PEOPLE LIKE THAT? I put you in the same category as the Paakaula family. They are ignorant and violent, you are ignorant AND a race-baiter. They may be curable, but your brand of hate tends to live on. You are probably a faliure, with a small dick and a lot of regrets. GET OVER IT!!! AND SHUT THE F— UP! Would you talk like that if the people you are baiting could see your face?

TO KANAKA: Deal with your wounded pride and ego, but in other ways. THIS is not the way. I have reviewed the court documentation on this case, and the Dussell’s were not trying to run away. Unfortunately, you are letting a small number of bad experiences alter your attitude towards a whole race of people. Just like sometimes the Hawaiian is the victim, THIS one time, the Hawaiian was at fault. Let it be what it is - don’t try to make it into something bigger

I HOPE ALL THE HATERS ON BOTH SIDES GET HELP SOON. I like living in Hawaii, but I see this name calling and race-bating as a total waste of time.

]]> By: big haole http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/comment-page-1/#comment-45881 big haole Sat, 17 May 2008 03:02:45 +0000 http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/#comment-45881 BTW, I'm a Canadian. Theres more than the yanks out there that dont want or need your lil "jewel" of an island. BTW, I’m a Canadian. Theres more than the yanks out there that dont want or need your lil “jewel” of an island.

]]> By: big haole http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/comment-page-1/#comment-45880 big haole Sat, 17 May 2008 03:00:20 +0000 http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/#comment-45880 taimana Hiding? haha. I won't be hiding when I come to your shit hole of a world and shit on you little people who are begging for my big wad of cash. You and your people will act like the whores you really are and kiss my ass to get it. Small price I have to pay to be called names :) taimana

Hiding? haha. I won’t be hiding when I come to your shit hole of a world and shit on you little people who are begging for my big wad of cash. You and your people will act like the whores you really are and kiss my ass to get it. Small price I have to pay to be called names :)

]]> By: taimana http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/comment-page-1/#comment-45879 taimana Sat, 17 May 2008 02:30:43 +0000 http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/#comment-45879 Only an idiot would leave a comment like that. Talk so much shit but hide behind your computer. united snakes of america, you even got a snake on your flag. Only an idiot would leave a comment like that. Talk so much shit but hide behind your computer. united snakes of america, you even got a snake on your flag.

]]> By: big haole http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/comment-page-1/#comment-45537 big haole Wed, 14 May 2008 14:27:53 +0000 http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/#comment-45537 taimana Everything that MY country has done? MY government is doing the same to me too. But you hawaiians need to understand something. WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU! you need to show respect to us. We are high and mighty and when we visit 3rd world people like you, you need to lick our boots. taimana

Everything that MY country has done? MY government is doing the same to me too.
But you hawaiians need to understand something. WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU! you need to show respect to us. We are high and mighty and when we visit 3rd world people like you, you need to lick our boots.

]]> By: big haole http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/comment-page-1/#comment-45474 big haole Tue, 13 May 2008 21:49:26 +0000 http://www.alohaupdate.com/2007/02/26/married-couple-victim-of-possible-hate-crime-in-waikele/#comment-45474 I will be in your stinking islands soon. Not because I want to. I'd rather visit East L.A. 7 days in your "paradise" Once will be enough. I just hope me and my boys can show you beach negros the "resect" you deserve. I will be in your stinking islands soon. Not because I want to. I’d rather visit East L.A. 7 days in your “paradise” Once will be enough. I just hope me and my boys can show you beach negros the “resect” you deserve.

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